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Some Cold Water For USF Basketball (But Just A Little Bit)

Yes, it's great to see USF basketball having some Big East success, since it hasn't come around that often. And they're in good shape to complete #TheQuestFor16. We have a KenPom subscription, and according to Pomeroy's data the Bulls are about a 70% favorite to win at least 16 games, and the same favorite to go at least 9-9 in Big East play (which makes sense since all remaining games on the schedule are in conference).

But let's calm down a little bit with the 20 wins and the bubble talk, shall we?

Don't forget USF has three stinky losses on their resume -- at Auburn, and Old Dominion and Penn State in the Hall of Fame tournament. All three of those teams clock in with KenPom ratings in the triple digits. On the flip side, the Bulls have just one top-50 win so far, against Seton Hall. Because of those bad losses, and the fact that they already have eight of them, USF is going to need something like 19 or 20 wins to get themselves on the NCAA Tournament bubble. This is very similar to two years ago, when they hit 20 wins and still didn't come that close to making the field.

Also, their Big East schedule is heavily backloaded. They have the game at Marquette tomorrow night, a visit to Georgetown next week, and then four straight KenPom top 50 teams to end the regular season -- at Syracuse, Cincinnati, at Louisville, and West Virginia. So far USF has made a lot of hay against their peers and teams that are worse than they are. But things are going to get tougher down the stretch.

This season is shaping up as a nice surprise and it's trending towards a trip to one postseason tournament or another. (Collin is probably pre-mourning the financial pain of a Bern's bet he made before conference play began, which he's well on his way to losing.) Let's let the surprise keep unfolding and try not to raise our expectations or dream too big at this point in the season.

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agreed here

keep things in perspective. just making the NIT would make me giddy

by the great gunsby on Jan 23, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Making the NIT is definitely a successful season

If some how some way we make the NCAA’s, it would be a miracle season

Go Bulls!

by Leavitt Town on Jan 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Winnable games down the stretch:

Providence
Pitt
@ Providence
Villinova
@ Pitt

Loseable games down the stretch:
@ Marquette
@ Georgetown
@ Syracuse
Cincinatti
@ Louisville
West Virginia

70% chance to get for wins out of those two groupings still scares me. It’s possible, but I just don’t have the faith yet. We don’t have a lot of margin in the winnable games column, and that counts Pitt as two winnable games, which is scary in and of itself. Hopefully we can steal one or two out of the lose column.

Go Bulls!

by Leavitt Town on Jan 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

this just proves

tomorrow’s game against marquette is gigantic

by the great gunsby on Jan 23, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It's only gigantic if we win.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we’re going to lose that game.

Go Bulls!

by Leavitt Town on Jan 23, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Louisville is a bit overrated

and can be beaten with good defense

Every other game in that bottom group is a loss though

Go any team besides the Lakers!

by Andrew P. on Jan 23, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Cinci and WVU are toss ups

I’m not sold on Cincinnati yet. Plus it’s at home.
WVU will be a bit tougher than Cinci, but again its at home and is the last day of the season (seeding could be locked up by then and they could be looking ahead to MSG).

That said, any tournament talk at this point is over-speculation.

by outrunner33 on Jan 23, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

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